October Visa Bulletin – What Does It All Mean? 09/16/09
The U.S. Department of State released the October Visa Bulletin last week. On the bright side, there was some forward movement. EB3 category is now available, but the priority dates go back to 2001 and 2002, depending upon the country of birth. EB2 China moved 2.5 months forward from the current month bulletin while India priority dates moved 14 days.
Some might become disheartened by the October bulletin. Indeed, October is an important month in immigration because the government goes by a “fiscal year” in immigration processing rather than a calendar year. However, not everything with a visa quota works in the same way. For example, the H-1b non-immigrant category has a limit per fiscal year (65,000 for the regular H-1b cap and 20,000 additional H-1b’s for graduates with U.S. Master’s degree or higher) and all the visa numbers become available at the start of the fiscal year (filing can begin April 1st but the visas become effective October 1st). This is not so in the immigrant (“green card” aka “permanent residence” category). While the immigrant numbers (144,000 in the employment based category) become available on a fiscal year, the Department of State moves the cases in a sporadic manner (sometimes forward, sometimes backward, and sometimes stalled).
So, what do the numbers mean? As someone once said, “Never make predictions, especially about the future.” Those who try to “guess” when a specific date will become current are indeed only guessing. It’s been my opinion that people try to guess by misconstruing the visa numbers. For example, some look at the current availability date and subtract it from the current year to try to arrive at a guess of how long the waiting period would be for a new case. Example: 2009 minus the current date of June 1, 2002 for EB3 Philippines would mean a waiting period of seven years for a new case. This is a miscalculation: in some cases it can be an overestimate but in other cases it may be an underestimate.
Still others try to guess based upon partial information released by the agencies involved in immigration. For example, the State Department issued dire predictions in June about upcoming visa availability. Specifically, the State Department estimated approximately 25,000 EB2 India cases which have been reviewed by USCIS and queued up at the Department of State awaiting visa numbers for the “green cards” to be approved, while that category (like all other countries) has a limit of 2,800 numbers available per year plus any “left over” numbers from other categories. That data could lead to a calculation (miscalculation) of several decades to get permanent residence. Really, how many employment based applicants will be willing to wait for “decades” to get a green card?
The reason we can not accurately predict visa number availability is because so much data is “missing”. Any reasonable estimate of visa availability would need to consider the following:
1. How many I-485 cases at USCIS waiting for visa numbers AND what the priority dates are for those cases?
2. How many cases are at NVC and consulate waiting for visa numbers AND their priority dates?
3. How many dependents are included in the pending petitions?
4. How many labor certifications are pending at Department of Labor AND the priority dates for those petitions?
5. How many I-140′s are pending at USCIS AND the priority dates for those petitions?
6. How many cases are duplicates (foreign nationals who have multiple petitions pending, either with different employers or in different categories, with the plan to take advantage of whichever comes first)?
7. How many cases are dropping out of the system or will drop out in the future before the date becomes current — issues such as employer no longer sponsoring the petition, employee abandoning the petition often to re-migrate back to home country or to another country, etc.?
This complete set of data is unavailable. Thus, any visa predictions are susceptible to error.
But as someone once said, “anything worth having is worth waiting for.” I like to compare visa number progression to waiting in line at the grocery store. Consider that you are standing in a very long line at a grocery store with only three other lanes open. How quickly the line moves depends upon various factors such as: how many people are ahead of you in the line, how many items each person has, how many people may become frustrated by the wait and simply give up and go to another store, etc. And what happens while you wait? Most likely, you’re looking at the other lane and wishing you had chosen that lane instead (perhaps wishing you had qualified for the “10 items or less” condition). And in the process, you also become frustrated that the store doesn’t see fit to open more lanes to allow people to move through more quickly – that would seem the logical thing to do. But if you are patient, you do eventually get through the line. And so it is with immigrant visa processing.
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23 Responses to this article
yeah right!!!!!! Is this article supposed to encourage us or what?Well atleast thanks for being 'honest' and shattering our hopes. Guess we all have to find our own way to avhieve our goals.
Dear Hammond Law,
GOD BLESS TO YOU AND TO ALL
APPLICANTS GETTING OLDER AND OLDER,
AND WASTING A LOT OF MONEY ,
MAY THE LORD OUR GOD WILL GIVE US
MORE LIFE AND MONEY.
GOOD LUCK AND AMEN.
Hi Sherry!
Thanks for the post. It really matters if the post is based on reality rather those that offers nothing but false hopes and we end up a like a lummox!
in my case i will just wait. in Gods perfect time i will get my visa.for the mean time im having my masters degree and enjoy life here in the philippines.because life in USA is different from ours.
All I know is God is good in all aspect and in his time all prayers will be answer….
Yes danilo we are getting older but we are happy for what we are steadfasting for.
I hope and pray that you have more life and have find true happiness coz some of this people who you keep on saying is wasting their time and money is more happy and contented than you.
Godbless!!!!
Patience indeed will be ultimately rewarded. May the Great Architect of the Universe answer all the prayers of anxious nurses to get their U.S. visas. They are itching to travel from east to west.
Dear Hammond Law,
Thanks for the details explanation. Only struggles survive, if you can wait, wait and if not quit, please don;t let us discourage people that are willing to wait, for me, l will wait and one day l will be in a position to encourage people coming from my back that it takes time but you will get there. This is going to come to past, we will all get there if we can wait.
Dear Hammond Law,
kindly and honestly say something about JOBLESS AND HOMELESS americans,
including OLD and NEW immigrants,
pls in GODS name say something about it and pls never ever write about fairy tales and FALSE hope.
GOD BLESS.
DEAR DANILO!
DON'T USE GOD OR LORD IN THIS BLOG! MAHIYA KA DONG OI. PARANG HINDI KA PROFESSIONAL NA TAO.
Dear Cutiepie,
In GODS NAME may the lord bless you and your
family
GOD BLESS TO YOU.
Dear Danilo
I dont see anything wrong on the comment of cutiepie. I believe cutiepie reacted on your statement because there was mockery on it.
Using God's name should not have any arrogance on it but the way you wrote well it is better not use the Lord's name because God want us to be patience, kind, full of humility, non judgemental, plenty of temperance, to live in life of simplicity, to be instrument of peace, hope and love.
May the lord shower you more wisdom and to mold you to be instrument of hope. Also may God protect you so you will never be use by the devil to destroy a man spirit of believing in God's miracles and wonders.
Good day and may all the reader of this blog find happiness and strength.
Amen to that !
Dear Phoebe,
Thanks. God will give us the miracle we needs. We just need to be patient and all these will come to past one day.
cutiepie,
GO GIRL!
Phoebe,
very well said sis!
oh man, this blog is getting too old. same people yakking about absolutely nothing. one side being the bringer of all doom and gloom and the other the light of all lights. quit it already. quit whining about retrogression, immigration laws, wait time, fees, blah, blah, blah. Danilo, if your so disillusioned about getting your status to become whatever, don't pull down others to your level man. you're pus that infects the mucous that cruds up the fungus that eats the pond scum that crawls up my arse. if you're life sucks 'coz your stuck in a hell hole of a backwater country you are in, don't suck up the hopes of the other who are in the same mire you are in. at least they're trying. why don't you just give up man! we're happy to be given a chance to work anywhere, rather than some 40 y.o virgin, living in their parents house asking for money to pay for internet bills by blogging too much. sucky my arse!
i hope when my date becomes current there is still a job waiting for me…3 years of waiting and counting…but still on d bright side eb3 visas becomes jun2002 than "U"
bro arnel your right. my fellow nurses wait a time with patience…
Agreed bro…as all nurses and PTs have done, who have gone this way before.
TO: DANILO
Dear Cutiepie,
In GODS NAME may the lord bless you and your
family
GOD BLESS TO YOU.
…. HEY WHERE IS YOUR MANNER? YOU KEEP ON POSTING NEGATIVE COMMENTS IN THIS BLOGS… AND SOUNDS THAT YOUR SOUR GRAPING. YOUR KEEP USING THE GOD'S NAME THINKING THAT YOUR MIND IS "EVIL". BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH… PARA AKONG NANDIRI AKO SAYO DONG OI. MA OWAW BAYA TA NIMO.
LONG LINES, LONG WAIT. Hoping so it's worth waiting. But, the irony of reality is that once we get there, we will absorb and welcome the US MISERIES. Just look at the reality of US nowadays?? Simple words, but they hurt… Sorry, but I am hoping that what I believe right now is not right. God bless America.
Thanks. God will give us the miracle we needs. We just need to be patient and all these will come to past one day.
if you believe in HIM
This article is really excellent. Thanks!