Call to Action: Say No to the H-1B Fee Increase Amendment 10/31/07
The House and Senate appropriations committees are scheduled to meet this Thursday, November 1st to discuss the combination of the Defense, Military Construction-VA and the Labor-HHS-Education appropriations bills into a single bill. As part of these discussions, the committees will consider including or excluding the Grassley-Sanders amendment (H.ADMT.3396) which adds an additional $3500 fee to the already excessive H-1B visa fees. This additional $3500 is to be used towards the creation of a special education fund to promote studies in the fields of math, science, and engineering.
HLG joins the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) in strongly opposing this fee increase. The addition of such a fee would make it even more difficult for US businesses to hire skilled foreign workers. We, at HLG, are encouraging clients to voice their opposition against this fee hike by sending a letter to your Congressmen or calling the conferees directly. For further information, please see AILA’s Take Action website located: http://capwiz.com/aila2/home/ or contact your HLG attorney.
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PROSPECTS
Prospects
According to CongressDaily, Democrats might send Bush about 70% of the total $955 billion in discretionary spending they seek for FY 2008 in one package that would include the Defense (HR 3222), Labor-HHS-Education (HR 3043) and Military Construction-Veterans Affairs (HR 2642) appropriations bills. The move would place Bush in the “position of vetoing the $670 billion package over $10 billion Democrats added for education, health and welfare programs,” CongressDaily reports. In addition, the move would place Republicans in a difficult position during a vote to override the veto, according to CongressDaily (Cohn, CongressDaily, 10/26). However, “Bush might come out on the winning end under this scenario if he is able to convince the public, and enough Republicans, that Democrats are holding troops’ and veterans’ funds hostage in exchange for pork,” CongressDaily reports (Cohn/Goode, CongressDaily, 10/29).
Democrats have scheduled formal negotiations to resolve differences in the House and Senate versions of the Defense and Labor-HHS-Education appropriations bills for Nov. 1, with floor votes expected as early as the week of Nov. 5. In the event that Democrats do not combine the discretionary spending in the three appropriations bills into one package, they likely will first send Bush the Labor-HHS-Education bill (Clarke, CQ Today, 10/26).
Bush has threatened to veto the bill because the legislation exceeds his request for discretionary spending by $22 billion. According to the Post, “Another continuing resolution looks likely, and some in both parties predict the spending saga will drag into January,” a move that would “increase the risk that, in the end, Democrats will have to merge unfinished bills into a single omnibus, whose hundreds of pages would blur their domestic agenda and hand Republicans a coup” (Washington Post, 10/27).
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HLG, is there a risk to lose the nurse amendment when opposing the H1B amendment?
To everybody
Please send mails to senators in supporting our amendment,i sent mails to them
hey,
this is a little conspicuous here.
I always thought the privileged Visa for all of us was the EB-3 immigrant visa (aka Green Card).
the ones who usually take advantage of the H1-B are high-tech employees who find it easier to go through.
And I don’t particularly feel sorry for the High-Tech industry to have to pay those fees. As long as their employees are still under the H1-B visa, the under-pay them (my brother was able to maintain his salary while taking one extra day off a week since he got his green card)
So I am very much in favor of such a fee as it will promote development of that particular field.
if the actual HHS bill passes, that means 61.000 visas available for us and only for us ( Schedule A workers)
H1-B visas are anyway all taken mostly by High-Tech workers the first day applications are accepted.
Notice also that on EB-3 immigrant visas, the extra fee here described do not exist.
All together, the ones who really need these visas (H1-B) are the ones who have the extra money to pay for it and also this will develop the education system in the US.
Do not think only about your immediate future, but if you intend to immigrate to the US, think also about the long range.
This extra $3,500 is good for the economy
I disagree, why should we pay for other people’s education.
The amount is ridiculous, the only long term effect it will have is for US companies to hire LESS foreingers.
DO NOT WORRY ABOUT H1B VISA FEES..
The bill will be vetoed next week and we will be back where we started. Why worry about something that will not come into effect ? Relax and enjoy the holidays !! Happy Halloween !!
Dear Alan,
that’s the idea…
No country, not even the US wants to rely solely on immigration.
please note a few points:
- the fee is for the employer to pay ( not you)
- the fee is reasonable : think a high-tech worker earns around $60,000 or $70,000 as a start over 5 years, $3,500 is barely 1.16 % of the employee’s salary. (for companies employing over 25 people)
- the logic behind limitations in visa numbers is not to lower the salaries and whereas in theory the H1-B workers are supposed to have the same salary as the market in fact it doesn’t happen
- immigration is not the long term solution for a certain lack in particular professions
- education is
To clement,
Excuse me please. I just think we should think of H1-B and schedule A together. The amendment reflects the USA’s attitude to immigrants. They are against immigrants now. The door is closing and all of us are outside the door.
We should not have narrow thinking: H1-B is not related to us. Do you think USA will treat you well when they treat H1-B holders like this only because you are a nurse?
Why should we pay their education fee? Only because we are doing the job which not enough Americans can do?
Anyway, it is not a big deal. like anonymous said, the bill will be vetoed next week.
Sorry, I disagree with Clement. Basically US immigration system is unfair. It is based on what origin country you come from (such as retrogression based on your birth country). The US immigration system alreay have too much unfairness. Remember the respect is gained by hard work and is not by someone’s mercy. Black people gained their voting right through fight. If you don’t fight this unfairness (for example bullying on H1B people), someday when you are bullied, no one else will stand up for you. For nurses, frankly speaking, we have too much advantages already. For example, we can at least possibly have the bridge bill that claims visa number that should be shared among all immigrants. So the bottom line is we, immigrants should unite together and fight together for what we deserve.
Star rock,
that is interesting that you make of it a race issue, how is there a difference depending what country you are from ?
An other point that here shocks me is the reference to the Nazi era that you are making, you can’t possibly be willing to live in a country that you consider being “nazi style”.
I just hope this was just an innocent mistake due to lack of knowledge of the context your paraphrase was taken of…
disagreeing on opinions is one thing but referring to the US as a nazi country is a totally different one.
clement,
I didn’t mention US is a nazi country. Could you please point out where I mentioned that? Also I said it’s based on your country origin. I am not saying it’s based on the race. You may read Black people. Come on, that is an analogy. Also please read the visa bulletin. There is a catagory for each country. For example, people from China, India or Mexico, have different retrogression time that other country. Is that clear enough?
Clement,
Also read from your post, I got a feeling that US is God blessed country that nobody can criticise. US is always great in anyway. If someone criticise US, then that one must be nazi, communist.
first they came…
…When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
and there was no one to stand up for me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came…
Criticizing is great and it appears that you don’t understand why the “current date” is different on a few countries, it is just because those countries already have a lot of their citizens immigrating to the US and the different dates are to prevent an overflow that would unbalance the general population.
let’s call it a misunderstanding of history and some facts, besides, I think this quarrel is not really interesting to anyone
Well first of all, the world population is unbalanced. And you want to create a balanced population in America. So can you explain why white people are majority in US? And in this world, white people are not the majority. So follow this balance logic, no more white people should be let immigrate to this country. For me, that is only an excuse for discrimination, no matter what you call it.
now you’re being funny
you definitely have a case now, go to supreme court…
Well, you now agree I’m right. Do you? I feel great now. If more people realize this, why not go to supreme court??
Clement, one more link for World population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
Guys get over yourselves and stick to the topic.
Guys stop fighting.. wake up and pray..We dont have enough time.. its being counted…
enna parayaana
Hey Guy,
H-1B has always been there…Clement is right…the $3,500 fee is for employer to pay not YOU…so if the employer hiring you will charge that fee to you then try think it over…
What is important is for the Schedule A relief…that is why retrogression has become a big issue…please dont use the Schedule A for your agenda(H-1b people)
Logically an increase in H-1b fee will help the cause of the amendment of Schedule A visa recapture…
For sure it will be sign by Pres. Bush because it will bring revenue to them…
Schudule A people be happy our amendment is a no cost amendment which means it will get attached whatever will happen to H-1b amendment…as long as nobody in the conference has the intention to remove it manually…
To gbert,
You could be wrong there, if there is a ruckus created over the Grassley amendment, then it may result in removal of all immigration related riders attched to the bill as the main bill itself is so controversial the last thing anyone needs is re-awakening of the immigration debate.
Unfortunately in US politics seemingly unrelated issues have great impact on each other.
My Dear Friends…..Let us all wait for atleast today.Till then we can stop all these debate….Because after today we will come to know a clear picture.Now everything up to Mr.Bush.Let him act first and then we can react(react thru at least in this blog..lol).Before if we come to a conclusion it will be futile and it will flood lot of rumours which is not helpful for immigrants…..
Let all the believers pray, and the rest can keep quiettt.
FUNNY MORTAL
Thats the sprit Funny Mortal…
Let us wait.. let us pray… and Let us see..
Thanks Mr.Kuwait.Please share the spirit with the other fellows in this blog.Mr.Kuwait, did u notice that people in this blog are sometimes far away from the topic which others are sharing…I think Mr.Kuwait, those people are very much frustrated with this delay and we can see the frustration from the words if we went through with the lines.
FUNNY MORTAL
HI HLG
all Senate amendments (including our Schedule A visa recapture ammendment) have been disagreed/rejected by house representatives yesterday????
They(house ) are jointly coferencing today with senate coferencee!
PLESE CLEARIFY IT
FROM THOMAS
10/24/2007:
Message on Senate action sent to the House.
10/31/2007 3:34pm:
Mr. Obey moved that the House disagree to the Senate amendment, and agree to a conference.
10/31/2007 4:34pm:
The previous question was ordered without objection.
10/31/2007 4:35pm:
On motion that the House disagree to the Senate amendment, and agree to a conference Agreed to by voice vote.
10/31/2007 4:36pm:
Mr. Lewis (CA) moved that the House instruct conferees.
10/31/2007 5:11pm:
The previous question was ordered without objection.
10/31/2007 5:36pm:
The Speaker appointed conferees: Obey, Lowey, DeLauro, Jackson (IL), Kennedy, Roybal-Allard, Lee, Udall (NM), Honda, McCollum (MN), Ryan (OH), Murtha, Edwards, Walsh (NY), Regula, Peterson (PA), Weldon (FL), Simpson, Rehberg, Young (FL), Wicker, and Lewis (CA).
To Analytical,
No, I think it means that House has not agreed to the Senate version of the bill and appointed its conferees for the conference. This is as expected as the bill will be taken for conference now.
Yes you are right funny.. the main reason behind their disappointment
is the delay of this amendment. Think USA is a big country and the govt. have lots of important jobs to finish before this FY. And the implementation of this amendment is only important for us and not for them. And remember nobody is forcing anyone to serve them. So be quit and pray for the successful completion of the bill.
Kuttappaaa you are correct….It is very much our need to lift the retrogression and not the US govt or the American people. Recently I noticed that some guys are posting like this…”Let America suffer”…and all….They dont have any probs guys… they are thinking 50 yrs ahead and they have all the things to live on hand now for the next 50 yrs….so they are least bothered about this so called retrogression and all….so better guys pls be patient and dont loose your temper…
FUNNY MORTAL
It seems they are just trying to milk on us that budget, instead of visa allocation increment they increase on fees but they dont even give us priorities. Lots of cert are about to expired and millions of dollars paid just to comply on that are about to go down the drain…wheres justice in here?
Guys, I guess the best thing to do is to pray and ask the LOrd to listen what we’ve been waiting for a long time, relief for retrogression, and whatever the outcome of the conference is because it’s HIS will and for sure HE has reasons and I certainly believe that our ALMIGHTY will never forsake us as long as we trust and have faith on HIM!
Amen…
Relax and have fun…Happy Halloween!!!
to funny mortal and the likes,
Cheers!!!
To abc123,
No your wrong…”The Schumer-Hutchison amendment’s approach to fixing our nursing shortage is to allow up to 61,000 foreign nurses to enter the country as green card holders. Importing these thousands of foreign nurses is only a band-aid solution to our projected nursing shortage of 1 million. But it is also a step that deflates any momentum towards finding real solutions for our domestic nursing crisis. We have done these nursing visa recaptures before”
I’ll just qoute Sen Durbin speech…with this speech I do believe that the whole senate & house has realized the great shortage of nurses in the US
If Grassley amendment will be removed…SA 3404 will stay and Pres. Bush will sign it!!!
To All,
PLEASE DONT CALL ANY ACTION…Say YES to H-1B Fee Increase Amendment…Schedule A people Unite…This is one of our ways to lift RETROGRESSION!!!!
Gbert,
I absolutely agree with you, any call for revision would put back on the table the Schumer amendment and that could further delay the temporary end of retrogression (the extra 61,000 “green card” visas)
”’ I THOUGH MOST OF THE PEAPLE HERE ARE NURSES”"”"”"”"
….. I THINK HI-B FEE BILL IS NOT OUR CONCERN…
SO HLG,,,,, yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????????????????????????????????????????????????
HLG,,
PLEASE FINISHED FIRST WHAT YOU STARTED….
WHICH IS HELPING PEOPLE APPLYING FOR IMMIGRANT VISA,,,
DON’T COMPROMISE OUR CHANCES WITH THESE KIND OF COMPIGN!!!!!!!!!
as your pass blog,,
it seems that all your business is helping nurses to get an immigrant visa..
we do our jobs,, following your instruction on calling all u.s. politician we know..
i even try to call the pope for this, to help you in helping us. (also helping you to get more profit) ..
now it seems that your trying to abandon us to, to joepardize our good chances in exchange for higher earnings..
please focus first on us..
don’t be a lingas cogon or have a “manyana habbit”
To HLG,
Do you think the attached amendment will be vetoed by the president if this bill will be sent to him for signing(recapturing of 61,000 visas) or this had been guaranteed already
and only the bill itself needs worrying.
The bill will be vetoed down by the Prez. The question is will it be attached again in the new bill. Its a political battle between the Democrats and the Prez and none are gonna give in.
If you follow the SCHIP, this bill was vetoed by the Prez and it went back to the House and now its in the Senate. The Congress does not have 2/3 majority to over ride any veto. Any clubbed bill will also be vetoed. At present no one know what the new move will be by the Congress or the President. The President need the spending bills passed and the war spending money, while the Congress wants its bills passed. Lets see what happens…
Just dont be too positive. The years 2001-2009 are worst years for immigration. Starting 2009 immigration will be easier…
Canada is still open. Check out – http://www.canadiannurse.com. The Can dollar is now 5 cents stronger than US dollar. The salary is good and so is the lifestyle and work hours.
HLG!
all above comments are confusing and making us dipressed. pls help us in giving clear report. we are waiting for many years.
To everybody
HR 3043 is passed by both congress and senate,only waiting for making some changes,to avoid possible veto and after that will be sent to president.It is up to President whether to veto or not.We can all pray to god to give blessings and not to be vetoed.Please do not be depressed.But if it is vetoed,no chance in 2008 also,hope only in 2009 after election.
Refer http://www.govtrack.us/congress and go toparent directory and search for HR 3043
http://cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=cqmidday-000002619724
House and Senate appropriators agreed on a spending package Thursday that includes funding for health, education and veterans’ programs, but not the Pentagon. Democrats are hoping to force Republicans to support more domestic funding than President Bush requested.
The conference agreement combines the $150.7 billion Labor-HHS-Education bill and the $64.7 billion Military Construction-VA measure.
Last night, House Appropriations Chairman David R. Obey , D-Wis., decided not to include the Defense spending bill as part of the package after Republicans objected strongly to its inclusion. He said he wanted to show Democrats are “serious about compromise.”
A House vote on the two-bill combination is likely on Tuesday or Wednesday next week. The Senate would vote soon after.
President Bush is expected to veto the measure. He has repeatedly objected to the funding levels in the health, education and labor measure — although he has indicated he would sign the veterans’ bill if it was sent to him separately.
Currently the entire federal government is operating under a stopgap spending measure that expires Nov. 16.
Frustrated by Bush’s refusal to accept more domestic spending than he initially requested, the Democratic Congress has not sent the president a single one of the 12 appropriations bills for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1.
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What happened? No news? Is it disappointing? Please…
Dear Friends
Here’s Some information
11/01/2007: House Agreed to H.R. 3043 Labor-HHS FY 2008 Conference Request of the Senate and Appointed House Conferees Yesterday
The House appointed the following members of the House of Representatives to the Senate-House Conference Committee for this legislation: Representatives Obey, Lowey, DeLauro, Jackson (IL), Kennedy, Roybal-Allard, Lee, Udall (NM), Honda, McCollum (MN), Ryan (OH), Murtha, Edwards, Walsh (NY), Regula, Peterson (PA), Weldon (FL), Simpson, Rehberg, Young (FL), Wicker, and Lewis (CA).
The list of the full conference committee: On the House side, Representatives Obey, Lowey, DeLauro, Jackson (IL), Kennedy, Roybal-Allard, Lee, Udall (NM), Honda, McCollum (MN), Ryan (OH), Murtha, Edwards, Walsh (NY), Regula, Peterson (PA), Weldon (FL), Simpson, Rehberg, Young (FL), Wicker, and Lewis (CA). On the Senate side: Senators. Harkin, Inouye, Kohl, Mrs. Murray, Ms. Landrieu, Messrs. Durbin, Reed, Lautenberg, Byrd, Specter, Cochran, Gregg, Craig, Mrs. Hutchison, Messrs. Stevens, Shelby, and Domenici.
Defense appropriation conference committee has already been actively working for the compromise. Open question is whether these bills will be strategically presented separately or in a packet to the White House for the President’s signature. We will find it out sooner or later. Please stay tuned.
Now, since the immigrant community has the full list of the members of the Senate-House conference committee, they should actively contact the members of the conference committee to support EB-3 visa number recapture bill and to oppose the H-1B supplemental fee legislation, at least to see that the former immigration bill is agreed to and the latter immigration bill is rejected at the level of conference process within the Congress. TIME IS RUNNING OUT!!!
Another Oh Law firm update:
“11/02/2007: H.R. 3043 Conference Made a Small Partial Success for the Level II Hurdle Without Complete Success
As we reported earlier, the strategy of Democrats is to combine three spending bills in a packet so that the President cannot veto the Labor-HHS spending bill which the immigrant community has a stake in. First bill is Defense spending bill. Second bill is Military Construction and Veterans spending bill. The third bill is Labor-HHS spending bill. Report indicates that yesterday the Democrat conferees dropped the Defense spending bill from the packet strategy as a gesture to the Republican conferees to accomocate their stance opposing the packet concept. The Defense bill constitutes a large portion in the federal spending. However, there still remains a confrontation between the Democrats and the Republicans as the Republicans continue to insist that the Labor-HHS spending bill be handled as a stand-alone bill. The Republican strategy is to pass and send the stand-alone Labor-HHS spending bill to the President who promised to veto the bill. The problem for the Democrats appears to be the President’s continuing threat to veto the spending bills inasmuch as the current Labor-HHS spending is presented to him either in a packet or a stand-alone bill.
The immigration riders have yet to survive at the Level I, which is for the conferees to drop the H-1B Supplemental Fee bill and to agree to the EB-3 visa number recapture bill. The outcome of the Conference compromise can turn the immigrant stakeholders into a serious predicament and split, to wit, what the immigrant community should do if the Conference adopts both bills. From the H-1B community perspectives, they are better off to lobby for the President’s veto of the entire H.R. 3043 so that the H-1B Supplemental Fee legislation goes to the tomb. On the other hand, the allied healthcare worker supporters and lobbists may still want the H.R. 3043 signed by the President. So far, there is no indication that the immigrant community and stakeholders have found any common ground of strategy to deal with such potential crisis. Since the H-1B Supplemental Fee bill is such a huge disaster for the U.S. employers in the high-end industry and academic/research community, potential conflict between this sector and medical sector in the immigrant community is indeed a nightmare. The Conference Committee is expected to complete the work before the end of next week. Please stay tuned.”
To gbert,
The Grassley amendment also passed by unanimous consent like our amendment. I believe the best situation for us would be if no attention is focussed on the immigration amendments and they quietly passes through the conference.
To abc123,
Yeah your right…but we the Schedule A people will be vigilant in some calls like the HLG is doing…this kind of calls will jeopardize the real cause why this BLOG has been so active for quite sometime…
On the otherhand if the Pres. will sign and retrogression will be lifted according to the hands of ALL MIGHTY…we gonna miss this kind of conversations…
BACK TO ZERO – HAPPY ANIVERSARY !!
NURSE, H-1B FEES TORPEDOED FROM BUDGET BILL
I have learned that the immigration provisions that would have created 61,000 additional green cards for nurses as well as added a $3500 fee to H-1B visas have not survived the conference committee and will not be a part of the bill sent to the President (which he is set to veto). There is much speculation as to why this happened. Many people were deeply troubled by the H-1B and its impact on non-profit and smaller employers. In order to allow Senator Grassley to save face, the push was made to strip all immigration provisions out, even though the H-1B fee opponents likely supported the nurses. We also understand the California Nurses Association, the most vocal anti-immigration nursing group in the country, worked behind the scenes to try and kill the nursing provision. Nice that they care so much about their patients and would rather push death rates up rather than immediately dealing with the nursing crisis.
- GREGSISKIND BLOG
HLG is stupid!
NO IMMIGRATION BILL WILL PASS THIS YEAR. SOONER YOU ACCEPT IT HAPPIER YOU WILL BE. ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAY, APPLY TO OTHER COUNTRIES, STAY WHERE YOU ARE OR KEEP CRYING, ITS YOUR CHOICE …
HLG, please clarify. Thanks!
Hi to All,
What anonymous said is true…were back in the square 1…according to my source the loobbyist and the American Hospital Association are in the regrouping mode to determine the next move will be…
Be sure that nothing will move again atleast untill Febuary, there is no need to pray and stuff… this is the reality, The thing I dont get is how come the amendment passed unanimus in the Senate and got canceled in the conference so fast, without even a struggle by the Senators, also Sen Hutchison is part of the conference it was supposed to work to our advantage.
I am with real tears in my eyes, something very strange going back stage.
I had a lot of confidence once the amendment to the amendment was offered, because it is right to charge fees to fix the nurse education in the USA, that is why i think that something dirty is happening…
We cannot do anything against that, we will not have a better chance then that.
Gather your strengths.
Why the hell they don’t stop all the CGFNS and NCLEX exams, when no visas are available?
All our money, energy and time is simply wasted. The last 50,000 visas were issued in 2005. And even till today people are registering for CGFNS, NCLEX, TOEFL etc. Why can’t they stop all of it when they do not want foreign NURSES? The California Nurses Association’s hand in these matters very clearly shows that they are not in need of any more nurses.
VERY VERY disappointing indeed!!!
HLG what is your next move?
Let us decide again whether we need to wait for this hell,please advise everybody not to write NCLEX and wasting money.They make money from us.We all should try for other countries and let Americans suffer because of their politicians
I am crying…
They make us all fools and they think to milk us for money We should not be their victims,nothing is going to happen until 2009
to HLG
is anonymous correct of what he is saying?is the recapture of visa and H1b did not survive the conference?If true what’s next?
To Ubie
Don,t you believe the reality?All immigration related amendments are removed because they want to play politics,they are not taking care of poor patients.Refer Greg’s blog
To evin:
But Greg also mentioned that there might be a few chances to add them back in the next few weeks. I don’t know how that could be possible. But I will hold my breath till HLG publishes her official announcement.
To Alan
We are waiting almost one year for lifting of retrogression,they are playing to get votes.We should not be their victims of loosing our future.Because of them i lost so many good chances.Let God punish them.See american dollar is getting worse now because of their bad policies
hey alan or anyone
can u post a link to the greg’s blog. thanks much.
-alan.y
here you go: link
ONE LOGICAL REASON FOR REMOVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS IS THAT IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO ANOTHER BILL THAT WON’T BE VETOED. IT IS CERTAIN THAT HR3043 WILL BE VETOED BY THE PREZ. ONLY HLG IS IN A POSITION TO EXPLAIN.
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG FOR HLG TO POST ITS MESSAGE????
To anonymous
HLG is in shock and gone for party to get rid of this,so please do not expect anything from them now till monday
Hi all here is the link from the news which anonymous wrote..
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/11/nurse-h-1b-fees.html
The H1b and Eb3 schedule A both dead today according to the committee conference. bad..
HI ALL, THE LESS SAID THE BETTER…
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY OF RETROGRESSION.
MANY DID CGFNS,TOFEL,TSE,IELTS,RN,VISA SCREEN,
YES LIKE MANY PEOPLE IN HERE I STRONGLY FEEL THAT AMERICA IS GOING UP SIDE DOWN,DOLLAR IS GETTING WEAKER AND WEAKER…
HEY GUYS THEY NEED MONEY TO FIGHT WAR IN IRAQ,AFGAN, ?IRAN
BORROWING MONEY FROM 3 RD WORLD COUNTRY LIKE INDIA TOO. SHAME ON AMERICA , THERE IS NOT EVEN A SINGLE PERSON WITH SENSE IN WASHINGTON DC AREA, BUSH IS A JACK ASS ,CLAIMS HE IS A BRON AGAIN X ‘AN ,LEGAL PR HOLDERS CAN’T EVEN BRING THERE NO COUNTRY IN THE FACE OF THE PLANET WOULD DO THIS ,TEARING FAMILY .
PLEASE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH PLEASE DON’T GIVE ANY MORE $$$ TO AMERICANS IN THE FROM OF CG,RN SO ON AND SO FORTH…
PLEASE TRY FOR OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE , CANADA ,IRELAND, NEWZELAND ,AUSTRALIA, WHERE IT WONT TAKE
SUCH A LONG TIME TO GET VISA AND MORE SENSIBLE IMMIGRATION RULES.
THIS COUNTRY IS ONLY FOR ILLEGALS, SOON AMERICA WILL GET IT’S TILE OF FATTEST NATION ON EARTH NOT THE RICHEST PLACE…
HEY NURSES WE HAVE GOOD CHANCES
30% OF THE POPULATION ARE OBESE
SO MORE DIABETES,HTN,CAD, DON’T
WORRY ONE DAY ALL NURSES WILL GET HERE…
MAKKALE , KATTAPPAN KUTTTAPPA, AND
P APPA, BUSH NAMMALE ITTU OOMBIKKUKAYA…. HILARY CHECHI ONNU VARATTE ELLAM NAMMUKKU THHOTHU VARI BUSHINTE MATTEDATHE
ADIKKAM……..
FORM SUNSHINE STATE OF FLORIDA
please don’t blame hlg guys it is not there fault they did there best… good work hlg
here is the conference committee web site link. but they didnt add anything about latest changes..
http://appropriations.house.gov/default.aspx
Ithu orumathiri mattedathe paripaadi aayi poyallo pillere…
Enthu cheyyam… Wait and see..
Dear Schedule A friends,
Now another circus is over. Finally I am able to get over from my head, the feeling, “America, the land of immigrants, the new world for hard working people. Country where equality, love, liberty etc prevails”. I understood the land in only for illegal immigrants.
I just cannot believe what an IDIOT I am. It took 3 long years to understand and come to this conclusion. Three years of preparations, exams, interview by employer, petitioning, retrogression………….
Long 3 years of hardwork, suffering, pain………… .……………What a shear wastage of prime youth chasing the Great American dream.
Now today is a great day. Beginning of another journey. Journey to another good country which needs me. I am sure that journey will be much lighter and easier than great American Dream. I am sure that country is going to treat me with far more respect and dignity.
No more listening to promises about lifting of retrogression. No more listening to bogus words from my employer. No more caring for the employment contract. No more America.
Friends, there is no more point in keeping the American Dream. The more you wait with hope; more you become idiot of this circus. How ever hard, painful and frustrating, the message is loud and clear “America doesn’t need us”. That is a naked reality. Don’t be in a fool’s paradise.
For still optimistic weak hearted people here are some facts.
This is the 3rd failed bridge legislation for Schedule A in senate since the retrogression. If you don’t believe me, check the archives of this blog.
The target date for Senate adjournment is November 16. After that senate will rejoin only 2008 January or February. You can visit the website senate.gov and check the schedule.
Everybody knows and HLG itself have made it clear in last few posts, chances are nil for any immigration related legislation in 2008 because of presidential elections.
If the political circus is like this, I don’t find much hope for any legislation even in 2009.
Another important thing is, opposite to our belief, there is no much Schedule A shortage in US. The logic is simple, if there is any; retrogression would have been over long before. So there is no point in vending the frustrations, let the American healthcare system and patients suffer because of retrogression. The truth is there is nobody to suffer except us.
These are the facts I learned sacrificing three long years. If any one wants to contradict or continue in hope, I can only say all the best for them. But remember truth will be truth whatever you believe or hope.
Another bogus hope for physical therapists is next year’s H1B. If only 1,50,000 applicaitons came for 65,000 H1B’s this year, next year its going to be 2,50,000. All the best for great lottery.
Its high time to tear away your employment contracts and approval notices and head for another country which really needs you. It’s always better late than never. All the best for every one.
Oru divasam Meera Jasmine shootingn breaknte edayil… oru marathinte thanalil ninne Pepsi kudikuka aayirunnu.
Appol aa maratinte mukalil oru Achen Urumbum makanaum nadannu pokuka ayirunnu….
Makante kaalu thetti… kutti urumbu Meera Jasminte Pepsiyil veenu….
Achen oodi thaaze vannapozekum Meera Pepsi kudichu theertu
Achen urumbu, nere chenne Meera Jasminode endo paranju…. adhe kettu Meera Jasmine mayangi poyi!!!!
Ende aayirikum Achen urumbu Meerayode paranje????
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-Edi… ninte vayatil ente kutti anne
Mr.Kuttappan/Mr.Avaran…..Is there any chance to pass the bill? If so we can meet in US.Otherwise we will be in Ootti with that same CHATTI..lol
Ithu Pakistan-india cricket match final il last ballil vicket poya pole aayi poyallo PAaPPAAA…. Koppile edapaadayi poi
Ini njan pandu Mathai vijaricha pole vijarikkan pokuva…Enna mairu muthiyitte ullu enna attitude…..eppadi kollamo?????????
ee billinu ethiru nilkkunnavane paambu kothum…athu sure…pandaram….
bush appechen nammalude kayil ninne dollar medichitte yudum cheyan potte,america adikham thamacikathe nashikkate,orumathiri vrithiketta paripadiyane kanichathe
hibkkarude kannukadiyum kazhinju.Avarke enthoru vishamam aayirunu nursesne visa kodukkan pokunu enne kettapol,ethippol patti otte thinnathum illa pasuvine ottee thhetachuthu ill enne parana pole aayi
Ippol oru kaaryam manassilayi enikku…..ee povanullavarmarellam malayalikala…..kollam chettan maare….bhagyam undankil amikku California junctionil vachu kaanam……goodnightttttttt….
To Funny
Peelikalum unde,avereyum consider ceyyanum.Pinnee evideyanu nade in kerala?
Karthaave ivar cheyyunnathu enthaannu ivar ariyunnilla,,, ivarodu porukkename…
Pandaaram adangaan, Udane thanne US il pokaan pattumennu karuthi officil Bossine cheethayum vilichu… Ini naale ayalude kaalu pidikkanam… Ithu vallom georgekuttichayan ariyunnundo…
I dont understand who benefit from this removal of bill.
The amendment was agreed to in the Senate by unanimous concent dosn’t it means that all the Senators support it? Nobody in the House think something needs to be done with the nurses shortage?
Its all political. Hope no one interest about nation’s Health.
GAME..GAME .. GAME..
People, please show respect to others who do not speak your native language at all.
john2255 is correct.
The politicians only care about their seats, not people’s need. Or put it another way, illegal immigrants’ need weight much more than healthcare workers’ in terms of ballot.
Like it or hate it, it is the fact. We have seen this saga enough. It’s time to move on. Look for another land.
Please do not publish in you own native language (Malyalam). This is a public form not a regional forum.
LIKE THIS ONE -
NO ONE DIES A VIRGIN, LIFE SCREWS US ALL. IN THIS CASE, US IMMIGRATION SCREWS US ALL.
I thought HLG already foresaw this in last post: “As for our amendment, it is going to be difficult, but we’ve been encouraged. Last week’s defeat of the Dream Act certainly hurt our chances. “
Not sure what HLG’s expectation is now.
Ambot sa Imo! Pls respect others! Can you express yourself in english word? Mga LECHE……
I have a strong feeling that the senate republicans won’t let the Labor-HHS bill reach the president’s desk in the current form. There will be not appropriations bill signed before January 2009. So, all sit tight the climax isn’t over yet.
The congress doesn’t have the votes to overide a veto. The entire excercise will have to be repeated all over again.
11/02/2007: H.R. 3043 Conference Update – Both Immigration Bills Killed!
One good news and one bad news. According to the AILA, the Conference committee took out both immigration riders from the H.R. 3043. It means that there will be no increase of the H-1B to $5,830. At the same time, there will be no recapture of EB-3 visa numbers for the Schedule A workers through this legislation.
To all you folks,
I am pretty much sure that there are lot of us there in the US who belong to the minority,the next time around an election comes we can ask our brethen there to form a block that will speak for our interest or support candidates from our background that will put into mind our flight.If only we have congressmen/senators who speaks for us?
oh man,can’t these lawmakers see that there is a shortage? HLG, can the recapture be attached to other bills or are we doomed till 2009 because of the elections?
Hi to All,
There is still hope… The reason why Sen. Schumer & Hutchinson allowed the removal of 3404 it’s because they know that the Labor-HHS will definetely will be vetoed by their STUPID Pres. who’s only concern is to bring war to the whole world.
So intead of making 3404 a casualty of war…they’ve decided to stripped it off the canvas…So that it would be easy for them to attached it to another upcoming bill which i think would be the FARM bill HR 2419…Senate will convene this nov 5…let’s just hope that the American Hospital Association & their lobbyist will make its move on that day…
Remember the 5 wise virgin who patiently awaits fro the coming of their master? That should be the Attitude my dear Schedule A friends.
Hi gbert,
U R Great! Really. God Bless u. I am not bothered about the result. But the way u presented. A touch of God in the right time. Your presence of mind highly appreciated. thank you man thank u.